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- Subject: Re: Wind velocity
- From: "Javier Encinas" <asdip(--nospam--at)adelphia.net>
- Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:29:44 -0400
Harold: Is the Saffir-Simpson scale compatible with the 3-sec-gust velocities of the code? In other words, a category 4 hurricane (130-155 mph) is categorized using the fastest-mile or the 3-sec-gust approach? Regards, Javier Encinas, MSCE, PE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Sprague" <spraguehope(--nospam--at)hotmail.com> To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: RE: Wind velocity > There are conversion algebraic "approximations" only. You can be off by > quite a margin depending on the velocity that is considered. > > Exact solutions from fastes mile to 3 second gusts are an iterative process > using the Durst Curve which is contained in the ASCE 7-02 page 296. The > iteration closes fairly quickly (about 3 or 4 cycles). I developed a > MathCAD template for conversions some years ago. I had Jon Peterka of CPP > Labs verify my technique. > > From that template I developed a series of tables for my own personal use > some years ago that converts various winds to 3 second gusts. I have > converted Fujita Scale, Saffir Simpson Scale, Australian Cyclonic Scale. > Beaufort Scale, World Meteorological Organization velocities, and Fastest > Mile winds to 3 Second Gusts. > > It is important to get the velocities correct because the pressures vary as > a ratio of the velocities squared. A little mistake in velocity can be a > huge mistake in pressure. > Example: > A Cat 3 hurricane is 1.5 times greater in velocity than a Cat 1. But a Cat > 3 pressure is 2.25 times greater than a Cat 1. > > Regards, > Harold Sprague > > > > > > >From: "Javier Encinas" <jencinas(--nospam--at)coqui.net> > >Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org> > >To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org> > >Subject: Wind velocity > >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:08:31 -0400 > > > >What is the correlation between the "fastest mile" wind velocity and the > >"3-sec gust" wind velocity. For example, what is the equivalent of a 110 > >MPH fastest mile velocity using the 3-sec gust approach? Regards, > > > >Javier Encinas, MSCE, PE > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** > * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp > * > * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers > * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To > * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: > * > * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp > * > * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you > * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted > * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web > * site at: http://www.seaint.org > ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ******** > ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
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