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- Subject: RE: Concrete Spring Constant for Base Plate Modeling
- From: <jwhite(--nospam--at)megr.com>
- Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:33:33 -0300
Wesley, that was a great link. How can I get more like that? - Jeremy Quoting Wesley Werner <wwerner(--nospam--at)conewago.com>: > John, > > Try this link > http://www.aisc.org/UploadedContent/2008NASCCSessions/E1/default.htm . A > few slides into the presentation the presenter talks about spring > constants. He concludes that for 3,000 psi concrete the value is about > 1,000,000 lb/in. For 3,000 psi grout the value would be 2,000,000 psi. > > > Wesley C. Werner > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: john yang [mailto:jeongidea(--nospam--at)gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:22 PM > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org > Subject: Re: Concrete Spring Constant for Base Plate Modeling > > > Hmm, just pick the number. However, the question is what is the > reasonable number. > > Depending on spring constant, it will change tensions on the anchor > bolts. If somebody starts with no idea of bolts' tensions, they may > come up with very small number if they use very flexible springs. > > Anyway, the reason that I am modeling the base plate instead of using > AISC design guide is my base plate has re-entrant corner inside and have > both direction lateral loads (of course both direction shears and > moments) at the same time. > > I want to know how much stress concentrations at the re-entrant corners > are and I don't think AISC design guide covers this situation. > > Thank you so much. > > John > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, David Fisher <dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com> wrote: > > > > > Hooke's Law is bascially F = k*x > > > > F, I assume you know. > > > > x = say 0.1" just to pick a value, solve for "K" which is your > spring constant. > > > > Not sure what your structure/foundation type is or load > magnitudes... > > > > That's a good place to start, if the results don't make sense, > then reduce the value of "x" as necessary > > To make the results reasonable. > > > > The bigger question might be, why are you modelling this > condition this way? > > AISC has spent years developing the base plate design criteria. > > > > Can't you just use that design procedure? > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: john yang [mailto:jeongidea(--nospam--at)gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:38 PM > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org > Subject: Re: Concrete Spring Constant for Base Plate Modeling > > > > How can I assume "the extension"? For spring, k=EA/L I know E > and I know A and I know concrete compressive strain (0.003). The > problem is L or deltaL. How can I assume those? Will L be full length > or depth of member? How much will I assume delta L for it? > > Thank you so much. > > John > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David Fisher <dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com> > wrote: > > Try my favorite formula, the foundation for structural > engineering: > > > > Hooke's Law: > > > > "as the extension, so the force..." > > > > > > > > > > David L. Fisher SE PE > > > > Fisher and Partners - Cayman > > 372 West Ontario Chicago 60610 > > 75 Fort Street Georgetown Grand Cayman BWI > > 319 A Street Boston 02210 > > > > 312.573.1701 > > 312.573.1726 facsimile > > 312.622.0409 mobile > > > > www.fpse.com > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: john yang [mailto:jeongidea(--nospam--at)gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:29 AM > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org > Subject: Concrete Spring Constant for Base Plate Modeling > > > > Hi, > I am modeling base plate on the 6000 psi concrete column and I > want to put concrete compression only spring to represent concrete. The > problem is what is the compressive spring constant of concrete. Could > you help me to get it? > > Thank you so much. > > John > > > > > ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
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