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- Subject: RE: 1 Inch Topping Slab
- From: "Rick Stone" <rstone(--nospam--at)madisonconcrete.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:18:35 -0400
I concur with Mr. Madden. 1 inch = too thin. It can be done at 1 inch, Mr. Sprague has the right ideas, but it will be a bear to do right, and you still have a huge potential for cracking as it shrinks, curling as it dries abnd shrinks, and a potential service issue down the road when it breaks up at the curled (delaminated) and cracked portions. Dowelling to the existing may serve to help the bond but it will restrain shrinkage so you may expect more cracks. An overlay material (latex modified?) may be a better answer than a portland cement mix BUT....that is big $$$ and low production rate work. Even at 2 inches, there is a potential for problems but atleast you have a chance. Suggest that you require a LOT of joints, or place it in strips and full depth sawcut, in addition to all of Harold's sugestions. Less cement and more, larger aggregate = less shrinkage............. Richard W. Stone, P.E. Project Executive Technical Services/Project Management/Estimating Concept Design/Engineering/Quality Assurance Madison Concrete Construction Company 130 Quaker lane Malvern, PA 19355-2479 email: rstone(--nospam--at)madisonconcrete.com Voice: 610.695.8800 Facsimile: 610.695.8678 Nextel: 610.496.5764 Visit our webpage at www.madisonconcrete.com !!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- 5 Message:0005 5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- From: "Gerard Madden, SE" <gmse4603(--nospam--at)gmail.com> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: Re: Slab-on-grade topping slab ------=_Part_31475_319240.1221165965236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Too thin. Use 2" min topping otherwise spall city... -gm On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Brian <bsh117(--nospam--at)yahoo.com> wrote: > I was hoping that I could get some input on my current situation. > > I have an existing warehouse slab that is 6" thick. A potential buyer > would like to have a 7" thick slab because that is what they require in > their typical specifications. The loading does not dictate that a 7" slab > is necessary. The warehouse use would fall into the moderate or heavy > warehouse slab as defined by ACI 302.1R. > > I planned on using a 1" thick, 5000 psi concrete topping slab (max 3/8" > aggregate) over the existing slab. The topping slab would be bonded to the > existing with cement grout (or other proprietary bonding agent) and control > joints could be cut to match the existing. > > What do you guys think? > > I would appreciate any input. > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > > ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
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