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- Subject: RE: Garage load on composite deck + concrete
- From: Paul Blomberg <blomberg_az(--nospam--at)yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:08:08 -0700 (PDT)
There are several aspects that are usually evaluated. +'ve moment, -'ve moment and shear are checked. The SDI manual does give examples on distribution of the load when it is midspan (maximum +ve) and the effective beam width. I've also seen the examples on some deck manufacturers web sites. If you don't want the -'ve moment cracks, need -'ve steel. Be careful of shear, not very much load distribution when that tire just rolls off the support. This site has a fork lift and point load example that might be useful: http://www.njb-united.com/usd.htm#manuals Good luck. Paul. Phoenix, AZ --- Michael Bryson <mbryson(--nospam--at)NYASE.com> wrote: > Why did you assume a 1'-0" width? The concentrated > load will spread out > to some effective width of slab. As a rule of thumb > I usually assume a > width equal to 50% of the span for concentrated > loads on concrete slabs. > I think it would be reasonable to assume the same > thing here. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Grill [mailto:jgrill(--nospam--at)swiaz.com] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:16 AM > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org > Subject: Garage load on composite deck + concrete > > > > I was just presented a design (done by another) for > a 2" composite deck > with a concrete topping of 2" over the deck (4" > total). The deck and > concrete system is supported by steel beams spaced > at 6' o.c.. This > design was for a residential garage. I did > preliminary calculations > equating the moment from the allowable superimposed > uniform loads (from > the deck manufacturer) with the moment from a > concentrated load as > required by both the 2000 IBC (2000#) and the 2003 > IBC (3000#) assuming > that the load will act on a 1' wide section. I > found the deck system > will not work. What do others of you do? It looks > to me like the > concrete thickness will have to be increased to > where a reinforced slab > thickness above the deck will be adequate by itself > for flexure and > shear. On the other hand, one of the manufacturers > I spoke with this > morning suggested getting a copy of the "Composite > Steel Deck Design > Handbook" by SDI. Will that be of help in this > instance? Of course > this is an ASAP thing as construction is continuing > and I don't have a > copy. > > > > Thanks, > > Joe Grill > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to: * * http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp * * Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
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