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- From: Alfonso S Quilala <aquilala(--nospam--at)taylorgaines.com>
- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:30:11 -0700
Count my vote for the repeal of the rho factor. Engr. Alfonso S. Quilala Jr., P.E. -----Original Message----- From: Swingle, Mark [mailto:Mark.Swingle(--nospam--at)dcp.state.ma.us] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 9:37 AM To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org' Cc: 'mswingle(--nospam--at)earthlink.net' Subject: Thanks, Ben, for the clarification on the 2000 IBC adoption schedule. Perhaps as a list we can discuss a repeal of the rho factor in the 2000 IBC. We would need to identify all the places it shows up, either directly or by reference, and amend those sections. Then we could get 100 of the 15,000 members of the list to sign it as a proposal. Gary Searer already did the most work in getting 20 or so signers to the concept of repeal in his paper on the subject. With those 20 (distinguished) signers and several dozen ruffians from this list, perhaps it will pass. Do you think we can do it by January? Regarding authority to change the code AFTER the fact, my comments still stand. The CBSC should have the authority to change the 1997 UBC to eliminate the rho provisions, effective immediately, if it is deemed prudent to do so. This would of course be preceded by deliberations open to the public. I am not sure that they have that authority now. Mark Swingle -------------------- on 29 July 00 Ben Yousefi wrote: <<Mark <<There is still a chance to make changes to the 2000 IBC. According to the current state schedule for the adoption of IBC, interested parties have until January of 2001 to submit code change proposals to the California Building Standards Commission. Anyone can submit code change proposals. As I understand SEAOC has already submitted some changes. (Maybe someone from the SEAOC code committee should shed some light on this.) <<The thing that throws a monkey ranch in the whole process is the strong opposition of some vocal groups to the IBC and the parallel process of creation of a new building code by the NFPA (national Fire Protection Association). The picture of the next cycle of code adoption looks very convoluted at this time. In one scenario we may be stuck with 97 UBC for several more years. <<But I would encourage everyone who has a bone to pick with an item in the UBC, that was carried over to the IBC, to consider submitting a change proposal. We need to take action otherwise decisions will be made for us. <<Ben Yousefi, SE <<San Jose, CA ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) to the list, send email to * admin(--nospam--at)seaint.org and in the body of the message type * "join seaint" (no quotes). To Unsubscribe, send email * to admin(--nospam--at)seaint.org and in the body of the message * type "leave seaint" (no quotes). For questions, send * email to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ******** ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To * subscribe (no fee) to the list, send email to * admin(--nospam--at)seaint.org and in the body of the message type * "join seaint" (no quotes). To Unsubscribe, send email * to admin(--nospam--at)seaint.org and in the body of the message * type "leave seaint" (no quotes). For questions, send * email to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you * send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted * without your permission. Make sure you visit our web * site at: http://www.seaint.org ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********
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