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[rlewis(--nospam--at)techteam.org (Richard Lewis)]

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Mr. Goldstein submitted a letter to SEAOC State Board indicating his =
concern regarding SEAOC's liability with regard to what occurs on the =
Internet and what is published in Online. His concern was directed at =
the states liability as well as issues that relate to protection of the =
not-for-profit status of the organization.=20
In my opinion, Mr. Goldsteins comments where more of a political move =
than any real threat. He suggested that the List as well as Online be =
placed on "hold" until the liability issue is resolved and until which =
time a committee can be formed to review and comment upon what is =
published in Online.
Please keep in mind that Mr. Goldstein is not an engineer, nor is he a =
member of SEAOC - he is simply an employee paid by our dues.
In response to his letter to SEAOC, SEAOSC issued their own letter to =
SEAOC that informed them that SEAOSC owns and supports the Listservice =
as well as full rights to Online. They further pledged (please note that =
I am paraphrasing all of this) their continuing support for our efforts =
and suggested that if these issues persist, SEAOSC would remove SEAOC's =
name from the server and Online - which would revert back to SEAOSC.
This has caused concerns with the state CAC (Computer Applications =
Committee) which is made up of ten SEA members from around the state. =
The ten members represents an editorial staff for Online as well as =
offering support for each of the functions of the Server and Online.
At this time, the resolution of this matter is being discussed among the =
CAC committee - where the issue rightly belongs. Please remember that =
these ten members represent the forces that keep the Server and Online =
evolving. I have complete faith in our membership to resolve this issue =
for in the interest of the professional community and not the politics =
that inevitably occurs in similar organizations.
The long term ramifications will have little impact upon the community =
since our CAC committee is dedicated to the goals that we set for the =
professional community. One member indicated his concern should the name =
revert back to the Southern Chapter he would have difficulty obtaining =
the time needed from his employer to devote to the committee. He is a =
key player as is each member of CAC.=20
I would respect his opinion on this matter, however, I have a personal =
distaste for politics that occur due to power struggles. I take the =
issues personally since I have written nearly 95% of SEAOSC Online for =
four years prior to the formation of this Committee. I do this because I =
enjoy doing it and because I feel that I have something to offer the =
community. I believe that Shafat does the same thing. Each of us have =
discussed the future of the Internet and what direction we expect Online =
and the List to evolve. Our dreams include the world of engineers - not =
just SEA. As far as the server is concerned, we are devoted to evolve =
the list and web pages with or without SEA.
As far as Online is concerned, the evolution of the journal may reach a =
point where it will be continuously generated from input within the =
community and I may be able to step out. I would not like this, but =
would do it happily once it stops being enjoyable. The fastest way for =
this to happen is to continue with political power struggles.
Each member of the state board needs to understand the potential of the =
Internet and the influence it will have upon the way we work. At this =
time I believe that the List is thought of as a meeting place to =
socialize. What is not seen by these members is that it is the most =
powerful tool to unite structural engineers and to unite other =
organizations such as CASE and NSPE as well as all other organizations =
that will help increase the lobbying efforts of the community to make =
changes in laws and on the floor of ICBO. Soon our committees will be =
made up of member from around the world, similar to the way in which an =
office network (intranet) works, code drafts can be placed in a network =
folder to be retrieved and commented on by each member - regardless of =
location.=20
Visual and Audio conferencing will reach a point that members in Zurich =
will be able to view and discuss the same issues as members in Southern =
California which will help shape the way we work with a uniformity of =
design around the world.
Speaking for myself, I believe that this is a reality that will become =
practical in a very short period of time - less than three to five =
years.=20
The benefits to SEAOC will be obvious as membership increases and the =
goals that the organization has made will become a reality much sooner =
and with more of the "bug" that exist in current codes, worked out that =
much sooner.
For more information (believe it or not there is) consult the next issue =
of Online where our editorial will focus on the advancements to be made =
within the professional community utilizing a very powerful platform =
known as the Internet.
Finally, please leave the issue of Mr. Goldsteins comments to the CAC =
committee at this time, inasmuch as they do represent all of our =
interests. The following is a list of the Ten members and their =
affiliation:



Shafat Qazi - SEAOSC
Dennis Wish - SEAOSC
Bruce Bates - SEAOSC
Mark Deardorff - SEAOSD
James Lord - SEAONC
Stephen Fisher - SEAOCC
Gerry Murdock - SEAOCC
Humayun Abbas - SEAONC
Dennis McCroskey - SEAONC
Allen Adams - SEAOSD

One more thing, please do not take these comments in such as manner as =
to suggest that we do not want your opinions or comments. This =
particular issue has already been acted upon and needs to be handled in =
the most diplomatic manner at this time so as not to misinterpret the =
concerns of each member.=20
Not only to I want ideas and opinions as to the future of the List and =
Online, I would tend to demand it of those of you that participate since =
we are, essentially, a newly formed committee of over one thousand =
members. I would hope that each of you would offer suggestions that =
reflect your insights into the future of the profession and how the =
Internet can be tailored to your needs.
Respectfully,
Dennis Wish PE
Editor SEAOC Online Journal





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